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Are Australians all that friendly?

December 03 2013

My wife and I have just returned from a swinger holiday in the U.S and from only knowing one couple before hand we now have at least 12 couples who are close friends. Instantly on this holiday people were talking to each other, it was so refreshing. You could approach anybody or any age and it wasn't about 'we don't want to have sex with you so we won't talk', everyone just talked. It was so awesome. There was lots of bum grabs and pecks on the mouth and no one got weird about it, everyone knew it was just fun and didn't NEED to lead to sex. Just found that going to these sorts of events in Australia or parties that groups always tend to form and stick together. No one talks to anyone that they don't want to have sex with, it's like us Aussies are scared to lead anyone on so we don't make it easy to socialize. We are a bit uptight. I just think this lifestyle in Sydney (and Melbourne)could be so much more but people are too standoffish.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Wow, so everyone must want to fuck me then..I wasn't born nor raised here, but generalisations like this shit me immensely..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You guys must have been to the wrong swingers gatherings here in oz then as everyone talks n if they don't want to fuck they simply say no just happy to chat n laugh... That's what I've found anyway

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Is that if you are friendly and talk to people they will talk back. I have never had anyone snub me before. Although I admit sometimes I am a little weary of some guys that give off a vibe that says "desparate" or if they give me the feeling that they don't get it, and by that I mean those blokes that think that just because a woman is at a swingers club she will have sex with him. Sometimes I am in a quiet mood so I don't make much of an effort to talk to talk to other people.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    You know the effect when you see someone yawn, and it makes you want to follow suit? I believe emotions and energy is similarly contagious. I call it the Emotion Contageon. (thsts good..... i mught trademark that lol :-) ...... Friendly is..... as friendly does. DG - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    is a mirror, doesn't matter the demographic or geographic boundaries.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I know what youre saying, but maybe its also shyness ?? We have met couples at clubs that say ,oh we wanted to say hi but were abit shy... Maybe americans are more confident ?? and not as shy?? At the same time we have come across total snobs and wankers at clubs, but you find those anywhere and everywhere lol

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Hi all! The_Team where did you go? where they resorts or a cruise or just clubs??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have noticed a difference too. At least from a single males perspective. Just like everything else Australia seems to lag behind. And I am not talking about sex but simply the opportunity to have an open conversation without being judged that your motif is to have sex with said person. Which is rediculous.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Why not compare Victorian people with Nsw people?? Americans are naturally overtly hospitable. They don't have to be swingers. But..... Walk through queens in New York and tell me you'd get the same response?? I don't think you would. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    When I was in the states a few years ago. The women were more likely to start up a conversation and take much more interest in you. Seemed to me that if that interest went long enough THEN there was a good chance they wanted more, but overall' getting to know each other came naturally and enjoying a chat was normal. Here, unless the female is naturally confident and she takes a liking to you all's good. But there is a strong element of ' Ive got a pussy , and its mine' mentality. OK, I understand the necessity of shutting out the guys who are full on or up themselves. But tarring every guy with the same brush is unnecessary. Not to mention you can come across as a stuck up lil biatch...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    No all those BBC will look at the little white cock and have a laugh. :p

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Bahahaha yup :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    So many things to respond to. Firstly, your perspective is your reality, I accept that. Some of you have had very social experiences and it may be an age thing. The older you get the less inhibitions you have and are willing to talk. I also believe some people just won't say that somethings aren't as good as they could be. Yes, we do find Americans more friendly and assertive and its so refreshing. Aussies are stereotyped to be so laid back and friendly but we really aren't. As some of the single guys have said, God forbid you talk to a girl these days in a club. You get the 'why are you talking to me' look and then they complain that guys aren't approaching them. We have found it to be similar (though less extreme) with swingers in Australia. A lot of people are on guard, why? We have this MASSIVE thing in common, why are we so scared to talk. I love swapping stories, talking about the pro's and con's. Just found the vibe at a party is you only get talked to by people who want to have sex with you and vice versa. There isn't anyone stepping out of their group. Stir_it_alot- I can't compare two different countries?? And yes I think I could walk through Queens and get a friendly response. We were in a horse and carriage in Central Park three weeks ago and a random jogger yells out 'Welcome to New York City!'. We just find they aren't scared to say it how it is. Same with on the cruise we went on, first day on the ship, hasn't even left port yet, sitting by the pool and people approached us and we had no problem approaching people. Walking to dinner just the two of us and we were often invited by people we had not talked to before to join their group of 6 or whatever. Mesmerised- I bet you're the type of person that says offensive stuff to people all the time and then says 'no offensive'. Own your comment, you're annoyed, own it. This is why I enjoyed America, not scared to say how it is. If you're being unacceptable, you get told and the world is a better place for it. Australians are too passive.

  • rupamohan

    rupamohan

    12 years ago

    America has more diversity and population...the law of statistics apply...if there are 10 people and 10 cars to buy and 1000 people with 1000 cars to buy, the later situation leaves more satisfaction.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Well I have been to NY a few times, the last time in Sept for two weeks and have to say my experience is that the common man in the street was not that friendly at all. Funny just chatting about this with some friends tonight and my mate said he went to the bars on his own a few times while the GF was shopping and he found the NY bar culture very different as people were very friendly and people openly chatted.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I frequent a swingers club and I definitely notice a different vibe on different nights. Sometimes it is very coupley, and by that I mean couples kind of stick to themselves so there isn't much interaction, well not compared to some nights when everyone is talking to everyone. Alot of the time I think they are people relatively new to the scene and they don't know all the protocols and are unsure of themselves

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'The_team' Mesmerised- I bet you're the type of person that says offensive stuff to people all the time and then says 'no offensive'. Own your comment, you're annoyed, own it. Heh, I'm hardly the type that speaks my mind and then backtracks. Sarcastic? All the time. A wuss? Never..Your generalisation was bullshit. That is my opinion, which will only ever be my own..But on topic, I frequent the same club as Meeka. Some nights there is more interaction than others but I agree that that may have more to do with couples' experience than attitude..OP, you would hate Holland.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'The_team' Australians are too passive. Couldn't help yourself, could you? If I said Americans are loud mouthed and overbearing, would you find that acceptable?.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I've travelled pretty extensively and in my experience Americans are incredibly friendly on home soil. Yes, a generalisation, but borne from experience and observation. I remember the first time I noticed it I was really surprised because I was expecting the stereotypical arrogant, obnoxious Yank. I've seen a reasonable amount of America, a number of times, and the warmth and hospitality has been evident in all places each time, except perhaps Miami, Florida. I've found Americans to be much more approachable than Australians. They tend not to play games of one-upmanship and tend to be much less sarcastic. They're quite extraordinary at showing hospitality when you're a guest in their homes. As I said, this is just in my experience. I'm a child of the world but have found that Australia remains one of my top favourite countries. We're pretty awesome in many ways. But I agree with the OP, in general terms we're not as warm and friendly as Americans.

  • JohnAnn2227

    JohnAnn2227

    12 years ago

    We have to disagree. As with any party you go to you have good nights and bad nights. If you are newcomer to a swingclub and there are groups of people who already knowor have played together before, you will naturally seem an outsider. We have felt that way plenty of times. But our attitude is we can either stay here on our own or join in the conversation in the spa or at the bar. We have never been excluded once we introduced ourselves. We spent a week at Hedonism in Jamaica and most of the people there on holiday were Americans. We found them to very friendly, especially when they heard our accents. There was a real difference to Aussie guys in that American guys love to dance (I think it must be a compulsory course at college!) Aussie guys (especially John) could learn from this LOL!Now the Jamaican guys.... well that is another story!

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Why am I getting bad mouthed for my opinion? Anyway........ I would agree, a couple's experience would have a lot to do with how much people talk. As in their confidence level. New couples would have the perception of 'if I talk to these people they may want to fuk me and I don't feel like having to reject them'. Thank you Sun_Kissed, in my travels there are nicer cultures than Aussies. I agree, they aren't guard or as proud as we seem to be. It seems like they don't have anything to prove. For eg, you bump into an Aussie in a bar and they will want to fight, I haven't seen any drunken violence ever in the USA and we have been to Vegas three times. I digress, we are the type of couple to go up to a couple who is on their own at a party and who look like they want to talk and introduce ourselves. It was so refreshing to have that happen to us on the cruise and we are sure it is due to their culture.However it must be due to culture AND the lifestyle, because when we went to Temptation at Cancun (not a swinger resort) it was much harder to meet people. They were a lot more closed off. I do believe Americans are loud mouthed an unacceptable when out of the U.S but so are Aussies out of Australia. All the bravado comes out when we travel and we can be just as annoying. Rupamohan- Well put, their amount of choice is the thing that I love and its all due to how many there are of them. Plus its harder to be a dick when there are so many choices, you can easily 'next' someone. In Sydney, try talking to an attractive girl and you get the cold shoulder (I know this is a defense mechanism from all douche guys so don't have a go at me but it is what it is), however the same girl in Vegas or Spain would not have the same attitude because there are soooo many beautiful women there. Look, I don't hate Australia but it frustrates me when I know how great the country and people could be.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Hey bro, why are you bad mouthing ozzies so much huh? If you like America so much, why don't you marry it? Maybe cause you got a wife already I guess, although that wouldn't be a problem in Utah. I only wish Donald Bradman was still alive so he could kick your ass.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'The_team' Why am I getting bad mouthed for my opinion? Anyway........ I would agree, a couple's experience would have a lot to do with how much people talk. As in their confidence level. New couples would have the perception of 'if I talk to these people they may want to fuk me and I don't feel like having to reject them'. Thank you Sun_Kissed, in my travels there are nicer cultures than Aussies. I agree, they aren't guard or as proud as we seem to be. It seems like they don't have anything to prove. For eg, you bump into an Aussie in a bar and they will want to fight, I haven't seen any drunken violence ever in the USA and we have been to Vegas three times. I digress, we are the type of couple to go up to a couple who is on their own at a party and who look like they want to talk and introduce ourselves. It was so refreshing to have that happen to us on the cruise and we are sure it is due to their culture.However it must be due to culture AND the lifestyle, because when we went to Temptation at Cancun (not a swinger resort) it was much harder to meet people. They were a lot more closed off. I do believe Americans are loud mouthed an unacceptable when out of the U.S but so are Aussies out of Australia. All the bravado comes out when we travel and we can be just as annoying. Rupamohan- Well put, their amount of choice is the thing that I love and its all due to how many there are of them. Plus its harder to be a dick when there are so many choices, you can easily 'next' someone. In Sydney, try talking to an attractive girl and you get the cold shoulder (I know this is a defense mechanism from all douche guys so don't have a go at me but it is what it is), however the same girl in Vegas or Spain would not have the same attitude because there are soooo many beautiful women there. Look, I don't hate Australia but it frustrates me when I know how great the country and people could be. It is very very common on RHP hence the same people posting all the time. People don't want to put themselves up for badmouthing or ridicule. Seems there are a lot on here that enjoy there own opinions but anyone not agreeing, or with an alternate opinion gets shot down. Without embarrassing or naming anyone, I am sure if you read through the posts you can easily work them out. Ho hum yawn though, in the real world they obviously don't rate a mention so I wouldn't even give them a second thought and stick to your guns. By the way, I agree with you .

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    The coterie of regulars on here forming a circle jerk are a tad irritating. All that back slapping and ego buffing. Dispensing their wit, wisdom and experience to those unfortunate enough to venture an opinion. It kind of reminds me of the club scene in Australia and why we gave up on it.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Sad to say this is not Europe or USA and we don't have the population.