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CONSENSUAL sex under the influence, intoxicated or in an altered state

September 28 2021

This is a very hard topic to be talked about without all the "non judgmental" people instantly casting their judgments on you. You get all the ignorant comments like "how can it be consensual if he/she are not in a sober or lucid state of mind. You will have every "expert" tell you how vital you may be for liking something they don't and you will most likely be shamed and reposted for being brave enough to open up in place that is meant to get safe and open.. Well this post is safe and open.. Please come share with us

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    Are you talking about some sort of kink where you like having consensual sex with someone so intoxicated that they dont know whats happening? As in it had been agreed beforehand? I dont personally see the point if you are not aware of what is going on. Its a bit rapey to me but just my opinion. Nothing surprises me any more on here, though, each to their own as long as theres no abuse involved.

  • SpicyKale

    SpicyKale

    4 years ago

    It’s called consensual non consent in the kink world and as you mentioned a few on here will get a bit icky about it. What a few here would describe as a ninja fuck would probably fall into the category. Have a search on fetlife, but even over there people might get a bit judgy, it’s still considered high end kink, sort of like breath play. Good luck!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    Isn't it called "The Bill Cosby Fuck"? Not for us, but as long as big time trust is there, do your thing. If I engaged I'd have a paper signed / dated just in case things went way off course.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    What exactly is the question here? Do you want to know if it’s ok so have sex with an intoxicated person? You might have to give a specific scenario, there’s too many variables here..

  • Sawadee

    Sawadee

    4 years ago

    I dont know if its only me , but even the times lve been intoxicated l always knew exactly what l was doing including being aware of sex being consensual or not ... Whenever l hear ppl say they dont remember ' it really puzzles me. Intoxicated or not .. no ' always meant no ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    The post is a platform to open the topic up. Lou and I have our own personal views on it already as we are not new to the lifestyle and adhere to RACK more to the SSC. Yes it is a borderline subject matter but I took it in good faith that there may of been so freethinking adults amongst the members here who are above the level of most tourists in the life..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    As @Spicykale has said it is called CNC or consensual non consent. As mentioned, trust is imperative when engaging in CNC and is defined not for the uninitiated.

  • countrytouch82

    countrytouch82

    4 years ago

    I'm curious. Considering it is certainly possible to rape your partner/spouse, do you always need to get a certain sober "pre-consent" even before having sex with your spouse if he or she is intoxicated? Asking for a friend (no spouse here haha) Also because consent needs to be given and consent also needs to remain (aka be continuous), if someone is intoxicated, even if they have first indicated consent somehow, how could they otherwise show a change in that consent? Wouldn't want a situation like: "oooh yes, that feels nice...." "Oh I love that...." [arbitrary instant passes] "HELP! RAPE!"

  • countrytouch82

    countrytouch82

    4 years ago

    No I didn't say confused, but I did say I was "curious". And I didn't say consent is required just for any particular situation. Obviously it's for all situations. My point rephrased is: If/when your regular partner is intoxicated, firstly how is consent safely given while intoxicated, and how do you ensure it remains over the course of such play/sex? Obviously you might have had sex with this person hundreds of times especially while sober. So one might be forgiven for thinking it is relatively safe to have sex with them while they are intoxicated, particular if you are not asking anything new of them. But does anything different need to occur for extra safety, and protection of both you and them regards to consent? What happens if the intoxicated partner suggests something new? Is it best to not engage in this activity, but discuss it at a later time? What happens if someone is only interested in certain varied play while under the influence? It's similar to my curiosity about kinks people might enjoy under the influence of hightened "lust" or equivalent hormones. A partner might have had no interest in a certain sexual or other activity during all previous plays and discussions, yet one day it suddenly gets suggested by them under this "influence". This has happened to me, and in my mind I don't trust it to be true consent.

  • Mrs_Deep_Love

    Mrs_Deep_Love

    4 years ago

    Are you only wanting people supportive of your choice to reply?

  • MegSydBlr

    MegSydBlr

    4 years ago

    We have a similar kink Dub con or ‘dubious consent’. But never dared to try this for real. Believe if there is super trust among people involved, it could be one more exciting stuff.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    It’s really a simple thing of establishing consent, boundaries , respect and understanding prior to getting drunk or high!! If you’re intentionally getting a person drunk or high to fuk dem you are now crossing the line...

  • wtfihateusername

    wtfihateusername

    4 years ago

    I once was already fucked up at the sauna and these older guy I was playing with had a friend that wanted me bad but I wasn’t interested I just wanted to be with his mate one on one anyway long story short he spiked me with g in his drink when I went back to the room with his mate he left the door ajar and as we were playing I was getting so fucked I didn’t even really notice his mate had come in with another bloke around their age anyway they got me just the right amount enough to not juice out but enough that before I knew it his mate was sucking my dick while the other two took turns fucking me until they both came in my mouth was so hot I blew in the guy that drugged me mouth that’s all he wanted in the end and he got every last drop It was the only time I got drugged and taken advantage of and I loved it

  • RHP

    RHP User

    4 years ago

    This is definitely a grey area and relies on the trust between parties involved I think. I unexpectedly experienced this on a few occasion with my ex who often got intoxicated. There was no malice involved and I think that was what made it a positive experience.